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[dragonfly 14.978]

Zojuist zei #166:

 

akkoord, maar williams heeft de centen nu eenmaal broodnodig.

Zal hun meer kosten aan misgelopen prijzengeld (punten)

[#166 276]

1 minuut geleden zei dragonfly:

Zal hun meer kosten aan misgelopen prijzengeld (punten)

 

zou best kunnen. heb eigenlijk geen idee hoeveel pappi stroll moet ophoesten.

wat ik helemaal niet begrijp, is hoe het komt dat ze, in het kamp stroll, het een goed idee vonden om die gast nu al te laten meedraaien in de F1, i.p.v. eerst nog een jaar in de GP2 (F2) te 'rijpen'. overschatting? schrik om op hunne bek te gaan in GP2?

[dragonfly 14.978]

Grootheidswaanzin zeker, heb hier al gepost dat die papa zijn zoon geen cadeau gedaan heeft.

[Monterey Jack 6.501]

 
ricciardo liet zich ook bijna vangen na de re-start en button vertelde dat ge ze goed als gene zak ziet in de spiegels van deze generatie auto's. maar ge hebt gelijk, 't was niet goed. zonder de crashes en zonder de penalty (ook eigen fout), was hier P6 of P7 mogelijk geweest. dikke punten weggegooid dus.
en nu naar canada. power circuit. zo goed als geen kans om iets te tonen. hoop wel dat 'm nu een pak korter bij alonso gaat zitten.
 

Gaat zich echt moeten tonen ten opzicht van Alonso.

McLaren heeft mijns inziens in de eerstkomende races weinig tot geen kans op punten. Enkel Hongarije kunnen ze misschien nog iets, al is de start finish straight daar ook al te lang denk ik. Erna Singapore misschien nog, maar dat is ook veel power. Maar Canada, Baku, Oostenrijk, Silverstone wordt niets. Hongarije misschien wel. Spa, Monza,...

Maw was nu een gouden kans. Hopen op een regenrace.

[Mich 2.891]

Zijn qualif was sterk... tot de crash. Maar Button was slechts een fractie trager.
Zijn koers was ni super overtuigend. Bij de start meteen ook plek kwijt aan Lewis.

Zal uit zijn pijp moeten komen...

[Frekkel 9.309]

En de "major engine update" voor Canada is uitgesteld...

[zwoemba 1.365]

3 uur geleden zei #166:

 

zou best kunnen. heb eigenlijk geen idee hoeveel pappi stroll moet ophoesten.

80 miljoen $

[dragonfly 14.978]

VIP tickets zijn te gewoon om mee te patsen hé  

[The Swede 6.662]

On 5/28/2017 at 11:24 AM, Ralph said:

Swede, zat je deze week in Monaco?
Ik ben donderdag even gaan kijken.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn RIDGE 4G met Tapatalk
 

Jawel. Gans weekend gezeten.

 

On 5/28/2017 at 3:52 PM, msxx said:

Format?

In 1992 was dat niet anders. Mansell was 2 seconden per ronde sneller dan Senna, maar geraakte er niet voorbij.

Het is gewoon ongeschikt als F1 circuit. Maar dan ook totaal ongeschikt  

Het is inderdaad geen circuit dat echt geschikt is. Maar deze blijft gewoon op de kalender staan wegens het prestige die hij aan de sport geeft en voor alle nevensactiviteiten (networking...).

 

[Timo 16.072]

Hoeveel ben je dan kwijt in zo'n weekend of zit je bij vrienden?

[Lotuzzz 17.069]

1 uur geleden zei Timo:

Hoeveel ben je dan kwijt in zo'n weekend of zit je bij vrienden?

Ticket op zich, om de GP bij te wonen, zou goedkoper zijn dan Spa. (OK dan heb je nog niet overnacht enzo).

[Monterey Jack 6.501]

 

 

[vince522 2.493]

7 hours ago, Timo said:

Hoeveel ben je dan kwijt in zo'n weekend of zit je bij vrienden?

Ik was minder dan €120 kwijt. Voor race day general admission genomen (Rocher,) als je vroeg bent kan je een goeie plaats scoren en heb je een scherm om alles te volgen. Verbleef gratis bij kennissen in Cannes, trein genomen heen en terug (€20 of zo).

Gezien de relatief lage kostprijs heb ik er geen spijt van, maar ik zou het niet direct nog eens doen.

[Glenn-N 8.593]

Fantastisch duo is dat.

Hebben ook niet de spanning onderling omdat ze niet voor de titel strijden.

[Timo 16.072]

8 hours ago, Lotuzzz said:

Ticket op zich, om de GP bij te wonen, zou goedkoper zijn dan Spa. (OK dan heb je nog niet overnacht enzo).

Ging mij daar niet over, ik ben benieuwd wat voor decadent weekend @The Swede had.

 

[The Swede 6.662]

Just now, Timo said:

Ging mij daar niet over, ik ben benieuwd wat voor decadent weekend @The Swede had.

 

 Fuckers drijven de prijzen van alles op als gek. Restaurants worden 2 - 3 keer duurder,...

Ergste was Jimyz de zaterdag: normale prijs voor een tafel is een 400-500 euro minimum spend, of je neemt aan de bar iets (20 euro voor een cocktail of zo). De zaterdag was het min. 12000 Euro voor een tafel en een pintje was (hou u vast) 50 Euro !!

En dan loopt er nog es veel te veel volk rond.

Ben eigenlijk geen fan van de drukte etc van de GP. Maar het is steeds een unieke kans om potentiele klanten en zakenpartners te ontmoeten. Dus heb weinig keus.

Kan wel niet klagen. Met enkele goeie vrienden en een aantal leuke madammen een erg goed weekend doorgebracht. (en goeie contacten gelegd) 

 

[vince522 2.493]

 

[Jules_W 4.839]

Als Vandoorne en Mclaren zo bezig blijven zal Mclaren geen andere keuze hebben dan op het einde een van de 2 coureurs te laten vertrekken

[The Swede 6.662]

On 5/30/2017 at 10:21 PM, vince522 said:

 

Waarde d'r ook?  Welke avond? 

[vince522 2.493]

9 hours ago, The Swede said:

Waarde d'r ook?  Welke avond? 

Enkel gaan zien naar de race op zondag, verbleef in Cannes waar het ondanks het filmfestival toch een pak goedkoper was om uit te gaan.

[Monterey Jack 6.501]

 

[Monterey Jack 6.501]

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Understanding the Mercedes diva: Can this W08 really win an F1 title?

Sky F1's Mark Hughes analyses Mercedes' W08 troubles in detail and why Ferrari could hold a 2017 advantage for some time yet...

Toto Wolff referred to the Mercedes W08 in Monaco as 'a diva' and that's a pretty fitting description of its unpredictability and very high-maintenance behaviour.

It's a car that at its peak is extremely fast - maybe even the fastest - but which falls off that peak very sharply. It doesn't warm its tyres evenly front-to-rear and these tyres are themselves extremely sensitive and diva-like. It is therefore difficult to find a sweet spot of set up for the car, especially one that works for more than one compound of tyre. At Monaco that problem was made worse by how little energy is fed into the tyre by the circuit's low-grip, slow turns and un-abrasive surface.

Hamilton: Title war not over

 

These would simply be traits rather than problems were it not for the Ferrari SF70H, a car that can seemingly turn on any compound of tyre almost immediately and which has a super-wide set-up window that allows the drivers to simply get out and go.

Much has been made of the Merc's much longer wheelbase and at Monaco that probably was a factor. The reduction in Pirelli's minimum pressures on the eve of the weekend also didn't help. In fact, those two factors could be linked.

The Mercedes is generally a more softly-suspended car than the others. Teams do an analysis called 'wheel top' whereby they look at in-car footage of rival cars travelling down a straight and measure how much and how quickly the chassis sinks relative to the wheel tops as the speed and downforce increases. This reveals suspension stiffness and travel. And the pattern of the last couple of years has been that the Mercedes consistently runs softest of all.

If a car's aerodynamic platform can tolerate it (ie the downforce remains reasonably consistent as the car rolls, dives and pitches around softer suspension) then soft is better. It facilitates better traction, increases mechanical grip in general and allows the tyres to work better. The limit to how soft you can go is usually the aero platform. A car with downforce that works only within a very narrow ride height and attitude range will necessarily have stiff suspension.

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But at a track like Monaco, where softness would be an additional boon because of the slow corners and emphasis on traction, it actually brought Mercedes a problem. Because around such tight corners, with such big steering movements, the cars rolls, pitches and dives so much that the aerodynamics are upset.

To keep the car within the aero window that works required stiffer suspension than ideal. The tyre sidewalls are part of the suspension and the higher the pressures, the more the tyre can lend support by resisting the unwanted roll etc. Conversely, the lower the pressure, the greater the tyre's mechanical grip. The Merc would still go faster on low pressure tyres than high pressures - but not by as much as the Ferrari.

 

Ted Kravitz is given unprecedented access by Mercedes to delve in to the inner workings of their briefing room at Monaco

Pirelli reduced the minimum pressures from 19psi front/18 rear to 17/16.5 in the build-up to the weekend. Which gave the Merc a few problems. Stiffening the suspension to compensate for the reduced stiffness of the tyres had the car locking wheels and understeering. Its long wheelbase probably contributed to that small window of workable suspension stiffness. The longer the wheelbase, the slower the weight transfer, making the front tyres more reluctant to load up on corner entry and the rears more likely to spin on acceleration. Which would give under-temperature fronts and over-temperature rears. Which was why it was so difficult to prepare for a qualifying lap.

They were the Monaco-specific problems. Add those to its generic problem of its weight (even in lightened Barcelona-onwards spec it's still believed to be heavier than the physically smaller Ferrari), which means there is less scope to vary the weight distribution to give the balance needed. Generally it has too much weight on the back, not enough on the front. So it takes the front tyres too long to load up and, when they do, the rears are overloaded.

The problem is more acute on slow corners and low grip surfaces. On high speed sections the car's greater bodywork and underfloor area probably gives it greater downforce than the Ferrari.

Next we go to Montreal which is essentially a selection of low speed, low grip corners connected by long straights. Not ideal for Mercedes on paper. Might it be Silverstone before we again see a silver arrows outpace the Ferraris - and can the team's championship challenge withstand the histrionics of such a diva?

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/32420/10899189/understanding-the-mercedes-diva-can-this-w08-really-win-an-f1-title

 

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[Monterey Jack 6.501]

Benieuwd waar dit gaat eindigen:

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McLaren 'near our limit' with Honda as Zak Brown issues warning

Zak Brown says McLaren reaching a "fork in the road" with beleaguered Honda; Planned Canadian GP engine upgrade delayed

By James Galloway

McLaren have given their strongest indication yet they are considering a future without Honda, after Zak Brown said they have "serious concerns" about their engine provider's title-winning potential.

In the third season of the revived partnership, eight-time constructors' champions McLaren are the only team yet to score a point in 2017 and sit bottom of the standings with their season compromised by a myriad of engine problems.

In an interview with Reuters, Brown confirmed a planned engine upgrade for this weekend's Canadian GP had been delayed and said that, despite no shortage of effort, Honda "seem a bit lost" with their F1 programme.

 

"I don't want to get into what our options are. Our preference is to win the world championship with Honda," Brown, McLaren's executive director, told the news agency.

"But at some point you need to make a decision as to whether that's achievable. And we have serious concerns.

"Missing upgrades, and upgrades not delivering to the level we were told they were going to, you can only take that so long. And we're near our limit."

After giving up a customer supply of Mercedes engines, McLaren lured Honda back to F1 in 2015 with the intention of recreating their era of dominance from the late 1980s and early 1990s when the combination won a succession of world titles.

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However, Honda's return has been beset by performance and reliability problems and McLaren are yet to finish on the podium, with their last race victory coming over four years ago.

Their run of six races without a point at the start of 2017 represents the team's worst start to a season.

Brown, who joined McLaren last November, has continuously stressed the Woking team's commitment to Honda but says they are now reaching a period when decisions have to be made.

"It will all come together," said Brown.

"There's lots of things that go into the decision and we're entering that window now of 'which way do you go when you come to the fork in the road'."

 

McLaren Racing Director Eric Boullier answers questions over Fernando Alonso future

After a torrid pre-season with Honda's redesigned engine, reports suggested McLaren's management sounded out Mercedes about the possibility of using a customer supply of their championship-winning power units.

Former McLaren chief Ron Dennis long argued that teams had to have a works partnership to win F1 titles in this era and, although Brown believes the team were right to go with Honda, he believes customer teams can still prosper.

"Do I think you can win with a customer engine? I think you can," he said.

More to follow...

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/10907574/mclaren-near-our-limit-with-honda-as-zak-brown-issues-warning

 

[msxx 7.833]

Zalig filmpje, prachtig geluid

Close racing

 

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