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[dragonfly 14.976]

 

[msxx 7.833]

Ben de race nu aan hetkijken. De race had nog veel mooier kunnen zijn... jammer!

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Sebastian Vettel's 'extraordinary piece of recklessness' triggered a potentially-pivotal turning point in the title race, according to Fleet Street.

Vettel crashed out of Sunday's Singapore GP after a ruinous collision with Ferrari team-mate Kimi Raikkonen and the Red Bull of Max Verstappen at the first corner.

Lewis Hamilton's subsequent victory leaves the Mercedes driver 28 points clear in the standings with six races remaining.

'For one so calculated, Sebastian Vettel threw the Singapore GP away with an extraordinary piece of recklessness,' summarised The Daily Telegraph's Oliver Brown.

'The blame rested largely with Vettel, who was inexplicably reckless in trying to shut off Verstappen, a figure of no significance in the larger battle he was waging with Hamilton.'

The Guardian's Giles Richards concurred with that assessment, writing: 'The crash was investigated after the race by the stewards and adjudged to be a racing incident, with no further action to be taken, but earlier the team had tweeted their belief that Verstappen was to blame: "VER took #Kimi7 out and then he went to #Seb5."

'However, with hindsight Vettel must consider that moving across the track to defend against a charging Verstappen was too aggressive a move with a world championship at stake.

'The season is far from over but Ferrari and Vettel must consider that their efforts may have been undone in that single defining moment under the unyielding glare of the floodlights at Marina Bay, and Hamilton, who has now won three races in a row and four of the last five, knows it.'

In The Daily Mail, Jonathan McEvoy added: 'Who was to blame for the crash? The stewards found nobody was 'wholly or predominantly' culpable, and that seemed fair. But if anyone was a touch more responsible than anyone else it seemed to be Vettel. Certainly, that was the majority view in the paddock, not least among ex-drivers, whose instinctive feel for these kinds of close encounters are keen.'

But McEvoy also focused on the relationship between Vettel and Verstappen, asking whether the pair's history could have played a part in their collision.

'An interesting consideration is the Vettel-Verstappen relationship. It is as sour as lemon juice. They have sparred on and off track before, most famously when their joust at Mexico last year so enraged Vettel that he repeatedly swore at the race director, calling for the teenager to be punished for over-aggression," he wrote.

'One suspects Vettel may have been more circumspect if it had been someone else alongside him. Did a flash of retributive anger not cloud his judgment when all sense suggested he should have carried on in a straight line rather than risk ruination, in the wet, by turning very slightly towards Verstappen? If so, Vettel showed again the same impetuous streak that caused him to ram into Hamilton in the Austrian race. For all his smiles - and he is a very nice chap - there may be a chink here, perhaps a slight immaturity.'

Although there remain 150 points up for grabs before the title race is decided, The Times' Rebecca Clancy believes Singapore can be seen as nothing else but a "massive blow to Vettel's championship hopes" given it was a race Ferrari expected to win.

'His reaction to claiming pole, which had led to victory in each of the previous five Grands Prix, showed just how much he was aware that he needed the win - visibly shaking and punching the air as if he had taken the victory,' she said.

The weekend has left Hamilton, chasing a fourth career world title, as the man firmly in the box seat heading into the Malaysia-Japan double-header.

'His miracle came not just in the form of three cars in front of him smashing into each other but the heavens opened just minutes before the start of the race to produce the first wet race under the lights at its 10th anniversary,' Clancy added. 'There is no better driver on the grid in the wet than the Briton and he knows it."

https://drivetribe.com/p/sebastian-vettel-blamed-for-extraordinary-ewAg8vowR9iIT_eJxN00Mg?iid=AnfizdVDTROe2KXumUVRCQ

[gTa 28.033]

Race gisterenavond bekeken, zonder voorkennis. Begin was ... wow ... veelbelovend (maar ook verdomd jammer voor Max en Nando). Maar éénmaal 't stof gaan liggen was, eigenlijk best saai.   Had ook meteen het gevoel dat Vettel het meest to blame is voor het ongeval, al snap ik wel waarom hij het deed. 'k Vind het nu ook geen mega fout oid, 't had vermeden kunnen worden maar 't is nu ook geen onlogisch iets voor het heetst van de strijd (net na de start).

[kwiekie 3.012]

Op 18-9-2017 om 09:46 zei Riskitalltowin:

Verstappen zat aan het achterwiel, Raikonnen moest richting de racelijn en die beweging was miniem. Raikonnen is wel de laatste die schuld treft. Wat verwacht je anders? Hej, Raikonnen ga maar vol in de ankers want je bent te goed gestart en je verdient dit niet? De start van zowel VES en VET was gewoon kut.

Raikkonen kwam toch ook gewoon te vroeg naar rechts? Hij kon zeker nog wat meer naar links opschuiven of gebleven zijn.

[Riskitalltowin 3.293]

17 minuten geleden zei kwiekie:

Raikkonen kwam toch ook gewoon te vroeg naar rechts? Hij kon zeker nog wat meer naar links opschuiven of gebleven zijn.

Verstappen had beter ook niet gestart, die verrekte kutmongol

[DenDuvel 4.681]

4 minuten geleden zei Riskitalltowin:

Verstappen had beter ook niet gestart, die verrekte kutmongol

Hoeveel keer is die vent nu al bij crashes betrokken geweest?

Is sebiet nog erger dan Kvyat.

[Lotuzzz 17.069]

Op 9/19/2017 om 17:59 zei gTa:

Race gisterenavond bekeken, zonder voorkennis. Begin was ... wow ... veelbelovend (maar ook verdomd jammer voor Max en Nando). Maar éénmaal 't stof gaan liggen was, eigenlijk best saai.   Had ook meteen het gevoel dat Vettel het meest to blame is voor het ongeval, al snap ik wel waarom hij het deed. 'k Vind het nu ook geen mega fout oid, 't had vermeden kunnen worden maar 't is nu ook geen onlogisch iets voor het heetst van de strijd (net na de start).

Mee eens.

[Riskitalltowin 3.293]

2 uur geleden zei DenDuvel:

Hoeveel keer is die vent nu al bij crashes betrokken geweest?

Is sebiet nog erger dan Kvyat.

Mijn antwoord was eerder schertsend. 

Ik mis Maldonado. Wie nog?

[DenDuvel 4.681]

4 minuten geleden zei Riskitalltowin:

Mijn antwoord was eerder schertsend. 

Ik mis Maldonado. Wie nog?

Ik wacht op de dag dat er eens deftig op ene zijn bakkes wordt geklopt.

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F1 2018: Aston Martin to become Red Bull's title partners

So will Aston Martin become Red Bull's engine providers from 2021?

 

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• Red Bull have confirmed that Aston Martin will be the team's title sponsors in 2018.

The team, for whom Max Verstappen and Daniel Ricciardo currently drive, will run as 'Aston Martin Red Bull Racing' from next season.

"We've been working with the world famous sportscar maker for 18 months and this is the logical next step in strengthening our relationship," a statement read.

As part of the tie-up, a new 'Advanced Performance Centre' will be housed at Red Bull's Milton Keynes HQ, consisting of 110 Aston Martin design and engineering staff.

Red Bull will continue to be powered by Renault engines in 2018. But it is understood that Renault have informed the former world champions they will cease to be their partners from the end of next season and confirmation of Red Bull's deepening ties with Aston Martin will only increase speculation that the iconic British company will become Red Bull's power providers in the future.

"The power unit discussions in Formula 1 are of interest to us, but only if the circumstances are right," Aston Martin CEO Andy Palmer said. "We are not about to enter an engine war with no restrictions in cost or dynamometer hours but we believe that if the FIA can create the right environment, we would be interested in getting involved."

Red Bull chief Christian Horner told Sky Sports F1 at Singapore that only one of the sport's four current power providers could be the team's engine suppliers in 2019 and 2020. But F1's engine regulations will be revamped for 2021 - when many believe Aston Martin will power Red Bull.

Were Renault to withdraw their supply of engines for Red Bull from next year onwards, Honda are the team's likeliest option for a new supply after the Japanese company joined up with Toro Rosso, Red Bull's junior outfit.

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12475/11052679/f1-2018-aston-martin-to-become-red-bulls-title-partners

Interessant! 

[Carlito 6.297]

Hun straatmotoren kopen ze bij AMG om budgetredenen, en dan zouden ze zelf F1 motoren gaan ontwikkelen??

 

[msxx 7.833]

44 minuten geleden zei Carlito:

Hun straatmotoren kopen ze bij AMG om budgetredenen, en dan zouden ze zelf F1 motoren gaan ontwikkelen??

 

Cosworth motoren rebadgen als Aston Martin is nog niet zo ver gezocht? (Cosworth heeft deelgenomen aan de gesprekken rondom motoren > 2021)

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Pierre Gasly komt in de plek van Kvyat bij Toro Rosso:

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Gasly to replace Kvyat at Toro Rosso for 'next Grands Prix'

Red Bull junior driver Pierre Gasly will make his F1 race debut in Malaysia this weekend after Toro Rosso confirmed he will take Daniil Kvyat’s place alongside Carlos Sainz for the ‘next Grands Prix’.

The move, which comes amid a difficult season for Kvyat during which he has scored just four points to Sainz’s 48, will allow Toro Rosso and parent company Red Bull the chance to make a more informed decision on their 2018 driver line-up, according to team principal Franz Tost.

"Scuderia Toro Rosso was established by Red Bull to bring youngsters from its Junior Programme into Formula 1 and that's what we are doing by giving Pierre this chance,” said Tost.

“He is the next in line at Red Bull for this opportunity and he has shown that he deserves it, having taken the 2016 GP2 title and this year being very competitive in the Super Formula series in Japan. He really has a valid chance of winning the title, as he is only half a point behind the leader.

“The driver switch gives us an opportunity to make a more informed decision regarding our 2018 driver choices. For a variety of reasons, some of them due to technical problems, but others being mistakes of his own making, Daniil Kvyat has not really shown his true potential so far this year, which is why we are standing him down for the next races. This will give us the opportunity to evaluate Pierre on track during a proper race weekend."

Gasly, 21, has acted as Red Bull’s reserve driver in 2017, driving the RB13 at the post-race tests in Bahrain and Hungary. He currently lies second in the Japanese Super Formula standings with two races at Suzuka remaining, but as well as going for that crown he will also now have the chance to prove he belongs in F1.  

"I would like to thank everyone who has helped me get this chance in my motor racing career and specifically, Red Bull, Dr. Helmut Marko and Scuderia Toro Rosso,” said the Frenchman.

“This is a great opportunity for me. I feel as ready as I can be, having had to be prepared for anything in my role as Red Bull Racing's third driver this year. I will do my best to perform well with Scuderia Toro Rosso during these coming races."

In a statement, Toro Rosso added that the driver switch should not be considered a permanent parting of the ways with Kvyat, saying "This is not a case of goodbye for our Daniil, as he still remains part of the Red Bull Family."

However, it is not currently known if and when Kvyat will return to the cockpit. 

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2017/9/gasly-to-replace-kvyat-at-toro-rosso-for--next-grands-prix-.html

 

[TCT 6.313]

Talentje!

[msxx 7.833]

Torpedo zien we niet meer terug...

Zonde, want hij is snel genoeg!

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5 minutes ago, msxx said:

Torpedo zien we niet meer terug...

Zonde, want hij is snel genoeg!

Zal afhangen waarop ze zich volgend jaar willen richten bij Torro Rosso. Als ze dat Honda blok krijgen dan kan iemand met ervaring nuttig zijn. Dan heeft Kvyat nog een kans. Een 2e rookie in die auto steken kan natuurlijk ook, maar naar development lijkt mij dat minder interessant. 

[msxx 7.833]

Daarom dat ze nu een junior inzetten samen met Sainz, dan hebben ze een benchmark voor volgend jaar.

98% kans dat er een Jonda-junior in komt

[dragonfly 14.976]

Daarom dat ze nu een junior inzetten samen met Sainz, dan hebben ze een benchmark voor volgend jaar.
98% kans dat er een Jonda-junior in komt

Vliegt er ook al in omdat de puntentelling voor licentie volgend jaar verandert.

[PJH 21.021]

't werkt me op de zenuwen dat we er niks van horen

[Monterey Jack 6.501]

Je kan de race uit 2001 integraal herbekijken op YouTube de komende 3 weken:

 

Ga ik zeker eens doen, want is toen dat het hele circuit onder liep  

[Riskitalltowin 3.293]

1 uur geleden zei PJH:

't werkt me op de zenuwen dat we er niks van horen

Ze zouden em naar Amerika sturen met de hoop op... Maar wees nu eerlijk, ie was toch beter dood geweest en een legende in plaats van het kastplantje en wachtend om een dode legende te zijn..

[PJH 21.021]

Dat blijkt niet waar te zijn. Sterven mag hij nog niet, ik hoop hem nog altijd eens te ontmoeten