BMWMB 9.812 Geplaatst: 29 juli 2021 Delen Geplaatst: 29 juli 2021 Ik zou deze kleur ook nooit kiezen, maar ik vind het wel iets hebben. Enkel had ik de wielen in het antraciet genomen, en de remklauwen in het zwart. Quote Link naar reactie Delen op andere sites Meer opties om te delen...
William Blake 2.685 Geplaatst: 29 juli 2021 Delen Geplaatst: 29 juli 2021 Ik vind net het goud mooi combineren met dat zachte blauw. Zeer geslaagd imho Quote Link naar reactie Delen op andere sites Meer opties om te delen...
tuscani 10.035 Geplaatst: 29 juli 2021 Delen Geplaatst: 29 juli 2021 2 uren geleden, William Blake zei: Ik vind net het goud mooi combineren met dat zachte blauw. Zeer geslaagd imho Idd, de combo maakt het net af. Quote Link naar reactie Delen op andere sites Meer opties om te delen...
Roger 143 Geplaatst: 29 juli 2021 Delen Geplaatst: 29 juli 2021 Ik vind het echt geslaagd. Quote Link naar reactie Delen op andere sites Meer opties om te delen...
flupke73 9.405 Geplaatst: 24 augustus 2021 Delen Geplaatst: 24 augustus 2021 Clarkson: https://archive.ph/YMeVL Hmm. I don’t like downforce. When I turn into a corner I like to have a sense that something mechanical is in play. Being told that I can turn into the bend at 150mph because an invisible elephant is sitting on the back of the car always causes both an eyebrow and my right foot to raise a little. It’s a happy car. A whizz about and smile car. I mean this: it has more in common with a Mazda MX-5 than with a Ferrari. Quote Link naar reactie Delen op andere sites Meer opties om te delen...
ICM 22.309 Geplaatst: 24 augustus 2021 Delen Geplaatst: 24 augustus 2021 Just now, flupke73 said: Clarkson: https://archive.ph/YMeVL Link? Quote Link naar reactie Delen op andere sites Meer opties om te delen...
flupke73 9.405 Geplaatst: 24 augustus 2021 Delen Geplaatst: 24 augustus 2021 8 minuten geleden, ICM zei: Link? 'hier' werkt die Quote Link naar reactie Delen op andere sites Meer opties om te delen...
ir_fuel 52.073 Geplaatst: 24 augustus 2021 Auteur Delen Geplaatst: 24 augustus 2021 Just now, flupke73 said: 'hier' werkt die "hier" niet. Quote Link naar reactie Delen op andere sites Meer opties om te delen...
flupke73 9.405 Geplaatst: 24 augustus 2021 Delen Geplaatst: 24 augustus 2021 Zojuist, ir_fuel zei: "hier" niet. archive.today webpage capture Saved from no other snapshots from this url 22 Aug 2021 00:55:44 UTC All snapshots from host www.thetimes.co.uk WebpageScreenshot sharedownload .zipreport bug or abusedonate Accessibility Links Skip to content Search The Times and The Sunday Times DRIVING The Clarkson Review: Porsche 911 A happy, weekend whizz-about car to drive when the sun is shining Jeremy Clarkson Sunday August 22 2021, 12.01am BST, The Sunday Times The car park in my local pub was always filled, every Friday night, with grey Range Rovers. But in recent months I’ve noticed the electrical Porsche Taycan is starting to make its presence felt. And it’s easy, when I’m inside, enjoying some devilled kidneys, to spot who’s driving them, because they rush over and tell me. I try to be polite and look interested as they explain how fast their car is and how much more reliable it will be than the grey Range Rover they sold to buy it. And I usually wrap up the conversation by inviting them on one of my shoot days this autumn. That should shut them up; when they get stuck and use all the battery power to try to free themselves and it’s raining and going dark and they’ve missed lunch. I turned up last weekend in a Porsche of my own, the new 911 GT3, and it felt good to be driving a petrol-powered, old-school dinosaur. It felt, I should imagine, how that kid felt when he stood in front of the tank in Tiananmen Square. Pointless and futile but satisfying nevertheless. It was as though I’d stuck a spanner in the cogs of a wind turbine. That said, I didn’t actually know it was the new GT3. It seemed like only yesterday that the last new one came along and since then we’ve had the GT3 RS and the GT2 RS, and in my mind, your mind and the mind of everyone who’s got better things to think about, they’re all the same. But it was the new GT3, which I find faintly encouraging. I’d sort of got it into my head that Porsche had redirected its entire engineering department to the business of making electrical cars for people with second homes in the Cotswolds and hipsters in Los Angeles, and that the 911 would be allowed to wither and die. On the face of it they haven’t done much to move things along. Take the engine. They couldn’t fit a turbocharger, obviously, because then it would be a Porsche turbo and that, to people who have more adenoids than friends, is a different thing altogether. So it’s still a naturally aspirated 4.0-litre flat six that produces just ten horsepowers more than it did in the old GT3. And only seven more torques. They were, however, forced by Greta Thunberg to fit all sorts of eco clobber, which added a few pounds, but they’ve shaved the odd gram here and there from the body panels and the interior and the windows so that, in total, the new car is only five kilograms heavier than the old one. This means that in terms of straight line speed the new car is no faster from 0 to 60 and tops out at an identical 198mph. So there we are. Porsche has been so busy trying to out-Tesla Tesla that the maypole around which Porsche’s fans have danced for years has come on not one bit. Aha. But it has. Because Porsche says the new car is way faster round the Nürburgring than the old one thanks to massively improved aerodynamics. They say, for instance, that at 124mph the fearsomely complicated-looking “swan neck” rear wing, which can be adjusted manually by owners who really don’t have any friends, develops 50 per cent more downforce than the old car. Hmm. I don’t like downforce. When I turn into a corner I like to have a sense that something mechanical is in play. Being told that I can turn into the bend at 150mph because an invisible elephant is sitting on the back of the car always causes both an eyebrow and my right foot to raise a little. I know from Formula One that rear wings work because I’ve seen what happens when they come off, but trusting them, for me, is like trusting God. Happily there are also significant changes under the car, because at the front there’s now double wishbone suspension, like you get on Porsche’s racing cars, rather than MacPherson struts. I’d imagine that to traditionalists in the Dog and Dullard this will have caused much spluttering into the Britvic. But I couldn’t really tell much difference. The steering was always very, very good on a GT3 and it still is. Another change is the fitting of a stainless steel exhaust system and at first I thought it would drive me a bit mad because it gives off a sort of baleful and hollow sound that rises and falls with even the tiniest movement of your right foot. Weirdly, though, I grew to love it, and not just because it was a constant reminder that this Porsche has an engine. Not something from the back of a fridge. I loved the interior too. My car had the optional PDK gearbox but the lever looked like the sort of thing you’d get in a manual. And it was the same story with the starter button, which is shaped to feel like a key. Praise should also be heaped on the sat-nav and infotainment centre, which remains one of the easiest to use on the market. It is a bit strange, though, having a 21st-century screen and air con and so on in front of you while just over your left shoulder there’s a hunk of scaffolding. Whoever heard of a luxury race car? It’s not a race car, though. Not really. It may have tech that was spawned on the racetrack but it still feels like a sports car. It certainly doesn’t want to get any bigger, but despite the size this is a car you fling around with gay abandon. It’s a happy car. A whizz about and smile car. I mean this: it has more in common with a Mazda MX-5 than with a Ferrari. There is a problem, though. The clever thing about the old GT3, which I liked and admired in equal measure, was the way it felt like a sports car but, when you weren’t in the mood, it could settle down and behave itself. It rode beautifully, cushioning you from the slovenliness of Britain’s roadworker Johnnies. This one doesn’t. It’s fidgety and bouncy, all the time, like what we used to call a badly behaved child. Certainly, at my age, I couldn’t live with it on a daily basis, and I dread to think how harsh the forthcoming hardcore RS version will be. This means the GT3 is a weekend car, something you’ll use only when the sun is shining and the roads are right and you’re in the mood. You may think it madness to spend nearly £128,000 — and a lot more if you want wheels or seats or any of the other things on the options list — on a car you use only occasionally, but actually it could be worse. One of the men who rushed over to tell me about his new Taycan the other Friday explained he only really uses it at weekends when he’s “in the country”. Right. I see. So he’s bought an electrical eco car as a second vehicle. I think that really is the definition of insanity. Write to us at driving@sunday-times.co.uk or Driving, The Sunday Times, 1 London Bridge Street, London SE1 9GF Visit driving.co.uk for daily news, reviews, videos, buying guides and advice The Clarksometer Porsche 911 GT3 992 Engine 3996cc, 6 cylinders, petrol Power 503bhp @ 8400rpm Torque 347 Ib ft @ 6100rpm Acceleration 0-62mph: 3.4sec Top speed 198mph Fuel / CO2 21.7mpg / 294g/km Weight 1,435kg Price £127,820 Release date On sale now Jeremy’s rating ★★★★☆ Head to head Porsche 911 GT3 992 v Mercedes-AMG GT Coupé Price Porsche: £127,820 Mercedes-AMG: £108,390 Power Porsche: 503bhp Mercedes-AMG: 516bhp 0-62mph Porsche: 3.4sec Mercedes-AMG: 3.8sec Top speed Porsche: 198mph Mercedes-AMG: 194mph Previous article Woman’s Hour’s Anita Rani and her brother on breaking free of family expectations Previous article Next article Heather Graham on rollerblading, lie-ins and making a comedy about molestation Next article Back to top Get in touch About us Contact us Help The Times Editorial Complaints The Sunday Times Editorial Complaints Place an announcement Classified advertising Display advertising The Times corrections The Sunday Times corrections Careers More from The Times and The Sunday Times The Times e-paper The Sunday Times e-paper Times Currency Services The Sunday Times Wine Club Times Print Gallery The Times Archive Times Crossword Club Sunday Times Driving Times+ The Sunday Times Rich List Times Expert Traveller Good University Guide Schools Guide Newsletters Best Places to Live Best Places to Stay Sportswomen of the Year Awards Times Appointments Podcasts Times Money Mentor © Times Newspapers Limited 2021. 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Timo 15.240 Geplaatst: 24 augustus 2021 Delen Geplaatst: 24 augustus 2021 One of the men who rushed over to tell me about his new Taycan the other Friday explained he only really uses it at weekends when he’s “in the country”. Right. I see. So he’s bought an electrical eco car as a second vehicle. I think that really is the definition of insanity. 1 Quote Link naar reactie Delen op andere sites Meer opties om te delen...
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BMWMB 9.812 Geplaatst: 29 augustus 2021 Delen Geplaatst: 29 augustus 2021 Ik vind het wel iets hebben, maar zilver is sowieso ook knap. 3 Quote Link naar reactie Delen op andere sites Meer opties om te delen...
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-krikke- 1.425 Geplaatst: 4 september 2021 Delen Geplaatst: 4 september 2021 Op 29/8/2021 om 23:44, BMWMB zei: Ik vind het wel iets hebben, maar zilver is sowieso ook knap. Vele malen mooier dat zilver + chrome. Goud én chrome matchen niet. Quote Link naar reactie Delen op andere sites Meer opties om te delen...
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flupke73 9.405 Geplaatst: 24 oktober 2021 Delen Geplaatst: 24 oktober 2021 Nope, samen met de MX-5 een van de laatste der mohikanen turbo 2 1 Quote Link naar reactie Delen op andere sites Meer opties om te delen...
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dragonfly 12.954 Geplaatst: 10 november 2021 Delen Geplaatst: 10 november 2021 29 minuten geleden, ir_fuel zei: Voor op straat is dat compleet belachelijk In Monaco zal dat opvallen 1 Quote Link naar reactie Delen op andere sites Meer opties om te delen...
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